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Seriously! 0% chance?

So its like impossible to obtain this item from that boss?

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All you have to do is 1/infinity. Like dividing by zero....
Anyway, I'm assuming that means it is a very, very, very low chance.

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Check out that asymptote!

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Holy shift! Check out the asymptote on that mother function!

Yeah, the drop charts were primarily done, if I remember correctly, by a member of the community. They likely meant very low chance when they used that.


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Delete post is cool. /uses to get attention.

I would like to note that none (except bosses and rare enemies) of the rates are final. There's a little thing called DAR, known as Drop Anything Rate, of an enemy, which makes every rare have a much higher rate.

For example, though Redria Melqueek and Skyly Govulmers show 1/317 for Red Sword, Skyly is the better hunt, as Govulmers drop items more often, and the rare rate is calculated in that DAR.

Oh, and if Guld is 1/4,545, it is around 1/20,000 (with DAR factored in) if you are going to hunt it. Just an example. =P

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I have a few questions.

I was just wondering if this was the most up to date drop chart? I know there is one change to the drops that wasn't put in there (the rambling may from ult pinkal love rappy), but is there any other changes other than that one that was not put in this drop chart?

Also, what are the Drop Anything Rate (as specified by Zynetic) for ennemies on this server? Are they the same as on the old Sega Server or were they changed? If you don't mind me asking! ;)

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At least some are more than likely altered. But it doesn't change the fact you still get item X from monster Y.

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Laura wrote:
At least some are more than likely altered. But it doesn't change the fact you still get item X from monster Y.


I'm not sure I understand...
Do you mean the drop rates were changed, but the items dropping are all still the same?

The reason I am asking is because I put together the drop chart in Excel and made it easier to "manipulate", and also formatted it differently. So I'd like to know the changes that were made to update it and then I could post it here.

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Just things like tools/weapons/armours - Green orange and blue box drops (and PD's fall into that, just to clarify).

Unless stated otherwise the 'rare' is still as-is, regardless.
Basically a drop rate is for example 1/50. Keeping it as simple as possible, that DOESN'T mean 49/50 times you'll get no drop at all - You'll get meseta/other random crap - That's the DAR.
Delicious red box drop is unchanged, on that level at least.
Though I've not dived into that as much as some other people, everything in the DAR has a drop rate too, amounting to whatever number, obviously leaving space for the no drop. But better off asking someone with more knowledge of that than myself~

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Laura wrote:
Just things like tools/weapons/armours - Green orange and blue box drops (and PD's fall into that, just to clarify).

Unless stated otherwise the 'rare' is still as-is, regardless.
Basically a drop rate is for example 1/50. Keeping it as simple as possible, that DOESN'T mean 49/50 times you'll get no drop at all - You'll get meseta/other random crap - That's the DAR.
Delicious red box drop is unchanged, on that level at least.



I guess we are just not understanding each other.

When I asked if there were changes to the drop chart, I was refering to the link in the first post of this topic (so the drop chart of the "rare" items). I'm not interested in normal items and I already understood the idea of DAR too, but thanks for your clarification! :)

So you're telling me that the ONLY rare that was changed and not added to the link in the first post of this topic is the new Love Rappy Ultimate Pinkal drop which is now a Rambling May instead of Rabbit Wand, correct?

As for DAR, I was just wondering if you had a table with all the DAR of each ennemy and difficulty. For example, something that would tell me that, for Dorphon, on Ultimate, the DAR is 75%.

I have at home the old Tycho DAR tables, but I'm at work right now so I can't really post it here as an example! ;_;

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